Friday, 11 December 2015

Annie Cowan Brown "I have an idea! We need to construct pit bull/dangerous dog protection kits and market them. What would they consist of?"

All "Bully" breed owners this is what you're up against when trying to keep your pet alive as these people will kill your pet without batting an eyelid just for looking like a "Pit Bull".

 They shout from the roof tops that "Pit Bulls" are responsible for 60% of dog bite related fatalities but what they hide is that they created the "legal term" "pit bulls" which actually refers to more then 30 actual breeds and that's why in spite of the hundreds of thousands of pit bulls killed under breed specific legislation the death toll on average has grown hence the many municipalities repealing and legislated against Bsl.

 As the ever increasing death toll indicates this is more then just a "breed" issue by anyone's logic to try and use breed specific legislation when you're actually targeting a type of dog is absurd and is doomed to fail and how many more victims in the meantime?

Annie Cowan Brown
I have an idea! We need to construct pit bull/dangerous dog protection kits and market them. What would they consist of?
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Jen Arevalo Have you seen those suits for dogs to protect them against coyotes? They have spikes...let me find the link.
Like2Yesterday at 3:27pmEdited
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Annie Cowan Brown I posted that awhile back and folks told me that pits would just find the week spots and rip that right off which I agree with.
Like2Yesterday at 2:03am
Jen Arevalo Lew Heifner I would love to carry once my kids are older. I had my hunting license in the Midwest when I was a teen, shooting is what everyone does out there. I do carry a knife for protection...for instance there is a lady at my barn who brings a big ...See More
Like2Yesterday at 3:52am
Carol Miller Find another barn if this boarder has not been kicked out for creating a hazard, and theft of hay.
Like1Yesterday at 5:20am
Jen Arevalo Since I complained I haven't seen the dog off leash...not that it would matter because the girl is petite and dog is huge.
LikeYesterday at 5:51am
Lew Heifner Carry now, teach your kids gun safety. Tell them they are allowed to ask you to look at and handle the guns ANYTIME they want. Make it a weekly thing, unload, clear the gun, and had it to them. Teach gun safety. I've been shooting since I was 5-6......See More
Like1Yesterday at 5:54am
Jen Arevalo Yeah I need to wait a bit, my kids are all under 5.
Like1Yesterday at 5:55am
Lew Heifner Look at it this way. You have an emergency, you drop your kids at a friends house... they forget to put the guns up, they are curious and handle it... tragedy.. We always house proofed our kids, not kid proof our house for that reason. Just my $1 worth.
Like1Yesterday at 5:56am
Lew Heifner We had an "incident" in our home years ago, someone burst through a window, pistol close by or it would have been bad. Lots of questions and answered, but my family, very young kids were safe. Believe me, you won't hesitate if the need is there.
Like1Yesterday at 5:59am
Lew Heifner btw, lovely family you have, protect them.
Like1Yesterday at 6:00am
Jen Arevalo Thanks Lew Heifner we are very careful and protect our kids at all cost. 
Like1Yesterday at 6:04am
Jen Arevalo It should really go all the way around the neck to protect against a pit.
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Gary Young I used a 12 gauge only because I didn't own a .357 at the time.. A 12 gauge is a liitle to bulky to carry around while riding your bike.. but a hand gun.(Big hand gun.. not a .22) would do..
Like2Yesterday at 2:58am
Karen Branson Lol - I grew up hunting and I've done skeet shooting but I really know nothing about specific types. 357 was the first gun type that came to mind.
Like1Yesterday at 3:13am
Tricia Malone That's all ya need.
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Lew Heifner like emoticon .357s are revolvers, I prefer semi auto pistols for home defense and carry.
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Lew Heifner Were you any good at Skeet, I suck at it. I am proficient at trap. Skeet has all the goofy angles and speeds. frown emoticon
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Karen Branson No because I have a vision problem that causes my eyes to have difficulty lining up. In the beginning I don't hit any but after a warm up I can hit most. But I can't trust my eyes but instead do it more on feel or blind luck! I was really good as a kid because my dad was always making me shoot cans off a fence and would give me a quarter for every shot right in the center. Back in the 80s I was also really good at the indoor range with a pistol but I haven't fired a handgun in almost 30 years.
Like1Yesterday at 5:53am
Lew Heifner Cool. I hunted Pheasants in the Iowa fields, I was very proficient at it, they fly very predictably. Stationary, I can shoot with the best. Skeet makes me cry like a baby tongue emoticon My dad took me shooting trap and I sucked at it and he bitched at be for a month. My BIL and I practiced for a couple of months..every day. Next time dad and I went, broke 200/200. On the way home, dad still bitched at me. frown emoticon Oh well.
Like1Yesterday at 8:00am
Nick De Rooy Here is my weapon of choice....
When you are absolutely positivity gotta 2 kill every Pitbull insights....
Like1Yesterday at 12:55pm
Lew Heifner like emoticon lol
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Susan DeVilder A break stick for sure.
Like3Yesterday at 1:50am
Kris King A knife and belt. Long-range bear spray. A high decibel alarm.
Like3Yesterday at 2:00am
Gwendolyn Hanan Common decency and common sense vaccinations for the pitophelia
Like5Yesterday at 2:03am
Sandra Fuller Maybe use the protection vest and neck collars that hog hunters use on their catch dogs.Might not come in a small enough size though for little dogs.Bear spray,knife,golf club,metal tent peg to use as a break stick.All else fails use a gun
Like3Yesterday at 2:12amEdited
Annie Cowan Brown Seriously though. An ACTUAL kit. The reason is TWOFOLD, 1) First and foremost to help people protect themselves and their pets from dangerous dogs. Maybe have a breadstick, spray, tazer, knife, strap (to choke em out) and a video demonstrating how to use them. This would enable people to at least have a fighting chance. 2) To raise awareness and MAKE this an issue! Can you imagine Dangerous Dog Protection Kits hanging on the shelves at Petsmart, Walmart, Petco? With a pic of a pit, staff i.e., bully, mastiff and Rottie on the package! I say we do it! TOTALLY serious here.
Like9Yesterday at 2:10am
Kim Mironov Autocorrect got you on "breakstick". smile emoticon
Like1Yesterday at 2:29am
Karen Branson Remember how batshit crazy the nutters went over the pit bull defense spray in Walgreen's? Lol They totally lost their shit over that - petitions, boycotts, etc.
Like3Yesterday at 2:47am
Annie Cowan Brown A breadstick might work....lol
Like2Yesterday at 9:22am
Annie Cowan Brown If I saw a kit in the store it would def raise MY awareness. And it would help counter all of the cute product packaging with pits on it. Show people what they really look like, prepare them. Maybe have a link on the packaging to our support networks.
Like5Yesterday at 2:16am
Christel Ravn Good idea.
Like1Yesterday at 2:34am
Mary Conner First aid kit, shotgun, stun gun, knife, break stick and medical emergency numbers for starters. I just moved and sure enuf, there are two, two doors down. I'm afraid to take my 35# dog out. The two dogs have already attacked the mailman.
Oh yeah, don't forget links to the victims. The pit advocates say differently but how do they respond to the statistics? Don't those speak for themselves? I don't get it, I really don't.
Like5Yesterday at 2:53amEdited
Marie McGrath You beat me to it Karen.
Like4Yesterday at 3:25am
Carol Miller Amazon is an option for selling the kit. Did you know you can buy breaksticks on Amazon?
Like3Yesterday at 5:23am
Kathleen Horton Read this article and let me know what you all think: https://exigentcircumstance.wordpress.com/.../combative.../
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Like4Yesterday at 5:48am
Stephanie Snier Butler Excellent bit of information. For my walks my hubbie made me a "walking" stick... I also bring my mothers helper.... Stun gun.
Like3Yesterday at 7:20am
Lisa Padgett Kathleen - wow interesting article!
Like2Yesterday at 8:09am
Mary Conner Thank you, Kathleen
LikeYesterday at 2:06pmEdited
Stacey Westover GREAT IDEA. I will write up a sales and marketing plan for you once you have what you want in it figured out.
(I'm a sales and marketing manager)
Like6Yesterday at 10:22am
Stacey Westover There should be 3 options. Maybe 5. But no more than that.
Like2Yesterday at 10:23am
Gwendolyn Hanan Sounds great but do not overlook the liability problems inherent in selling something described as being effective protection from pit bull attacks....... because as soon as someone gets hurt or killed despite properly using the product its gonna be law suit city.
There will also be a huge "public perception" problem in regards to who will agree to carry something lethal enough to be effective in stopping a pit bull attack. IE anything even remotely like that will bring the rabid pro pit warriors out in force, boycotting, picketing, social media lynching, pinning the scarlet R for 'dog racist" on everyone from cashiers to CEOs in any retailer brash enough to carry a product meant to hurt a pit bull!!
If you're serious budget for an atty to minimize product liability law suits and also budget for a spin doctor to provide effective 'positive perception camouflage' for the product.
Like3Yesterday at 11:25am
Lew Heifner Call it an assist kit or something with a disclaimer?
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Lew Heifner Personally, I think it is all wrong, the real money is selling chihuahua protection kids, we all know how vicious they are.
Like5Yesterday at 11:30am
Carol Miller ^^ Valid point Lew. Kevlar socks might be a very profitable product.
Like3Yesterday at 11:34am
Gwendolyn Hanan Carol Miller, BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! LMAO!!! Love it!! Last I knew ( 2008) kevlar still didn't provide protection from edged weapons. Maybe they changed that by now??
The vest I wore in the early 90"s weighed 8 lbs, had no darts and removeable, flat , 8 x 10 metal plate in the front for edged weapons protection.
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Lew Heifner Steel toe shoes are a must and the all important tooth pick.
Like3Yesterday at 12:35pm
Lew Heifner Dangit, someone was supposed to ask about the tooth pick = break stick for a chihuahua... tongue emoticon
Like6Yesterday at 1:34pm
Elizabeth Bennet A magic wand and a list of chants such as, "it's all how you raise them" and "pit bulls are nanny dogs".
Like3Yesterday at 4:09pm
Annie Cowan Brown Lol. But seriously....I want to do this. If nothing else, it will bring attention to what we're trying to do.
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Lew Heifner I agree, you know what? Make up a kit, price it high enough that you can break even if some one buys it, and list it on eBay and Etsy.... someone searching for pit bull, bull breed, rottweiler, etc, will see the kit and just MAYBE think twice about getting a pit bull type dog. like emoticon like emoticon like emoticon
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Lori Welbourne That's a BRILLIANT idea Annie! You could pitch it to SharkTank!
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Lew Heifner That is a great idea, it would be fantastic if they pick it up. Just the coverage on the show would reach a lot of viewers. Cite statistics, get info out nation wide.
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Annie Cowan Brown Totally thinking that.
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Alan Baker Dog horn, mace, knife and defense instructions. I have a dog trainer that is making videos on this subject. Im not sold on putting all your faith into defense tools, however it is certainly one aspect of the situation to consider for adults. Children are a different situation.
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Annie Cowan Brown We've got to start somewhere.
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Barbara Ghiselin Annie- I have been thinking the same thing for quite a while now- dogs do have protective collars and gear ! Any ideas out there? I thought of some kind of metal mesh and helmet of hard plastic. I really think if we protect ourselves and our children much of the attraction for the BEASTS will decrease. Of course the cost will be a problem- but with some victims facing hundreds of thousands of dollars - up to $1 million in medical bills--- Our federal government should pay for it because they are not doing their job by protecting us from dangerous dogs!! Obama is SO gullible and believes the LIES and MYTHS and PROPAGANDA!!!
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 If you own what these people consider to be a "bully' breed please be extremely vigilant as you can see these people obviously suffer an irrational fear of dogs and want to inflict it on the rest of society.

 I've said it before and I'll say it again are these the comments from public safety advocates or is it closer to the truth to say they're bully's and thugs?

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