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Wednesday, 25 February 2015
Jane Shryock 8 hrs · Lowden, IA, United States · Edited So I recently saw on a closed group for rehoming pets in the Cedar Rapids, Iowa area, a woman by the name of Courtney Jo trying to pawn off an aggressive pit bull mix that has attacked her pets, unprovoked, four times. What action would you guys recommend I take? I would hate to read "toddler mauled to death" or something of the like in a Cedar Rapids newspaper a month from now.
Sunday, 22 February 2015
Lynne Smith April 4, 2014 · Edited NOTE TO PIT BULL LOVERS WHO JOIN THIS GROUP
The doctrine of a particularly nasty group that contstently spam pitbull articles and stalk and harass any and all whom oppose their views ...
NOTE TO PIT BULL LOVERS WHO JOIN THIS GROUP:
#1 We already know all dogs can be dangerous, we don't need you to educate us on this, that's not the issue - the issue is that some dogs are more dangerous more often due to their genetics. Volume of attacks.
#2 How wonderful your dog is up to this point or how wonderful your positive experiences may have been with pit bulls does not erase any of the attacks or issues surrounding them. Your limited personal experiences cannot be substituted for facts that apply to a whole breed/type
#3 We have nothing against baked goods here
#4 Insults, threats, personal attacks, getting your friends in to gang up on someone, and general rude behavior will not be tolerated. Watch your language - posts with the F word will be deleted! That goes both ways people! This is an open page and people can see what you say.
#5 Spamming the page with pit bull propaganda pictures, memes, etc. will also not be tolerated. One picture is not spamming folks!
#6 Should not have to be said but since it always seems to be a problem - don't assume you know what other people are thinking or what their opinion is. Read through some threads and ask. You don't want your pit bulls being stereotyped, don't stereotype people. And never accuse people of hate or wanting to kill dogs.
#7 Be open to the possibility that we may be right about a few things! Respect opinions that differ from yours and try to see things from others' perspectives.
#8 This is an all breed page, I wrote the notes aimed at pit bull lovers because they seem to be the only ones having issues with the page and behaving respectfully here.
#9 Members of this group who block admins (myself or Julia Lewis) will be removed from the group. This policy is so that we can best communicate with and monitor the entire group.
#10 Please be aware that this is a PUBLIC GROUP. Anyone can read what you write even if they are not a member, and there are some pit bull advocates who make it a mission to stalk and screenshot "haters" for the purpose of going after them. Private groups do exist for victims and others who would prefer it. The purpose of this group is a public discussion however, so others know they are not alone in their thinking, and people of all viewpoints are allowed as long as they are respectful. Again, if this does not seem like the right place for you, PM me or Julia and maybe we can find you a better home.
Joanna McGinn--Do we need a page/group for Pit pushers who are stupid beyond belief???------Sue Palen I want to do it and turn it into a satire page.
Lynne Smith--ASPCA letters but they're not a CULT?
Letter to the ASPCA, feel free to copy, tired of getting their solicitations, address is PO Box 96929 Washington DC 20077-7127:
I am writing to you today to ask you to remove my name from your mailing list as I cannot support your organization as long as continues to misinform the public about pit bulls and BSL. The last thing these dogs need right now is prominent and respected organizations like yours spreading false information about them to the public and their owners. What pit bull owners need is the truth so that they can be the best owners possible and keep their dogs out of harm’s way. Plays on emotion, sugar-coating, and incorrect information geared to make pit bulls more adoptable is not the solution, and I am far from being alone in this opinion.
Your web site used to have a page where it correctly stated fighting dogs were bred for unpredictable behavior – perhaps I am looking in the wrong places but I can no longer find that paragraph. Instead I find several spots talking about dogs as individuals and how we should not discriminate – please. Let me quote from your web site:
“Can All Dogs Be Trained to Fight?
No. Much like herding dogs, trailing dogs and other breeds selected for particular roles, fighting dogs are born ready for the training that will prepare them to succeed in the pit, and are bred to have a high degree of dog aggression.”
No. Much like herding dogs, trailing dogs and other breeds selected for particular roles, fighting dogs are born ready for the training that will prepare them to succeed in the pit, and are bred to have a high degree of dog aggression.”
And yet you encourage owners to “let people know that it’s bad ownership—not bad dogs—that causes pit bulls to be aggressive.” Well, which is it? Because it sounds to me like you want to have it both ways. How about really educating owners – how about explaining to them that even if they do everything right by their pit bull it may still be aggressive and that is a real concern to their neighbors. How about replying to comments on your web site from pit bull owners talking about bringing their pit to dog parks that this should not be done. How about changing that above paragraph to reflect the truth which is there is no training necessary to create a fighter. And while you’re at it, how about removing the idea that human aggressive fighting dogs were culled because any amount of research into dog fighting will show you that this is not the case, that several human aggressive and man biting pit bulls fought and were bred on, not culled. Real history, real facts, real education give pit bull owners the tools they need to succeed – otherwise you are creating unprepared owners who will set their dogs up to fail and cause more media worthy incidents.
I also hope you start to reconsider your position on BSL, which has a long history of working well in this country. There are some lesser forms of BSL such as mandatory spaying and neutering of pit bulls that has shown to reduce pit bull attacks, abuse towards unwanted pit bulls and shelter euthanasia for pit bulls which we both know is a huge problem. MSN does not impact a single responsible pit bull owner nor does it prevent ownership of these dogs. If you are going to engage in breed specific benefits such as low-cost or free spay/neuter, training, adoption fees, etc for pit bulls, how can you label those that see BSL as a workable solution as “discriminatory” or worse?
The pit bull problem of fighting, over-population and attacks has gone on long enough and these dogs need someone like the ASPCA to stand up and take a bold stand on the matter. Until then, I will continue to give generously to breed rescues, horse rescues, and other organizations that I feel are trying their best to combat problems, not make new ones.
Thank you for your time,
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