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Saturday, 30 July 2016

Julia Lewis boots the free thinkers and keeps the haters in tow!



As you can see despite claiming they have created this Facebook group to initiate debate and healthy discussion on the issues surrounding dangerous dogs it's closer to the truth to say these people hate pit bulls and simply won't tolerate anyone that doesn't agree with, support and promote their lies and disinformation.

As you can see the owner booted 2 new members after they showed their ability to be free thinking and refused to accept the groups discrimination and obvious bias against pit bulls in an alleged community safety orientated group.


I have removed two people because they persisted in advocating for pit bulls. I told them to read the notes and the description of this group but to no avail.
I don't regret letting them in because it's useful for ordinary members of the public to see the arguments that we are up against but then it gets to a point where we are repeating ourselves again and again and not being listened to.
I particularly object to being called "an idiot" and told I'm "peddling" certain views (pro BSL, anti pit).
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Jeffrey Sloan Sanity reigns!
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Jeff Borchardt Well, THEY are definitely idiots.
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Sarah May Uncle Terry in the mix?
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Ryan McCabe Like their "things", nothing ever sinks in. Dismiss liability, that must be a great life.
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Susan DeVilder Maybe it's because I am so cynical but I can spot the troublemakers a mile away. First hint: They post pictures of their pit bulls and then claim they don't own a pit bull.
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Hannah Honey That's not even cynical. Unless I am cynical. Possible.
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Rachael Mills Its like they are wanting their dogs to be judged individually when the facts and numbers don't lie regardless of whether or not their dog has shown any aggression....moot point right out the gates....I knew that one post was gonna be interesting to say the least.....if ppl are gonna be allowed to have those kinds of dogs then there needs to legislation to ensure public safety ...muzzles, safety classes, special permits, or just flat out ban them in public....I dunno but every time I take my lil dogs in to the front yard I worry about a loose one running up on us and I friggen hate it...can't even feel safe in my own yard..
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Hannah Honey Have one in your apartment building. You will be a wreck when you or anyone you love comes in or out the door.
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Rachael Mills I lived nextdoor to a guy that bred them for 15 years....ugh....one time I caught one of the standing on the roof of my storage shed in the back yard another time I had to call the AC because 2 wouldn't stop attacking 1 in their own back yard ....I hated those dogs....they was never nice or friendly looking....
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Hannah Honey Yikes. Fifteen is scarier than one appearing in your hall. In packs, you just know they want to eat you.
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Olivia Wyatt I'm getting ready to block some strange people who are hating people in our group. Our group stands for a good cause. How can these people be so blind?
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Please, new members, read the notes above and the "Description" on the top right hand side of this page before you start commenting.
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Pearl Ward Hello Julia, I am new to the group and have read the notes but just wanted to check if my introduction post was OK? I couldn't see anything in the notes stating it's not but, as I'm a noob here, just wanted to double check I'm not breaking any rules? 
I understand I own a breed which is not rated very highly to many members here but I assume it's still OK to post about her?
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Nicholas Valentine Pearl , I'm a long time Bull breed owner , and because of my experience I don't think they are suitable as pets . Also breeding them needs to be stopped as a matter of animal welfare for both the Pit Bulls and the animals they pose a danger to .
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Pearl Ward What type of bull breeds did you own?
I actually agree that bull breeds are being way overbred, especially in the UK, they are sadly brimming in rescue.
I completely disagree about them not making suitable pets. I can't speak for all bull breeds as my experience is with the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. A breed I grew up with and a breed I will continue to own. Never have any of the Staffs I know/knew ever given any indication that they do not make good pets, quite the opposite in my experience.
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Nicholas Valentine Most Staffs are very nice dogs , but when it goes wrong the owners are completely out of their deapth dealing with them . Read the posts and view the videos on here - no one is making this up .
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Pearl Ward I work with dogs for a living, of various breeds and have to deal with all kinds of owners and dogs on a daily basis. Bull breeds are an intense breed and not for everyone, they are a terrier and a drivey one at that but I can't and won't base my view on media posts. I will always form my opinion from my own experiences and so far, the only breed of dog (if it can be called a breed) that genuninely makes me a little nervous are Cockerpoos believe it or not, ha ha! I don't hate the breed but they seem to be nervous wrecks and snap at barely any provocation. Hopefully I've just met a bad bunch though....
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Nicholas Valentine The difference is a Cockerpoo will not kill you or another animal . There are hundreds of animals killed by bull type dogs every year , especially dogs and cats . These pets are like children to their owners and I feel for them . As I said , no one is making anything up here , and the dog attacks that are reported are only the tip of the iceberg as most don't makethepapers .
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Pearl Ward A cockerpoo couldn't kill anyone?
How do you know that? They're not that small
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Nicholas Valentine Well has one ? Such a comment demonstrates a lack of understanding about game dogs . Research dog attacks on YouTube , you may find it ilumanating . I'm not having a go at you or your very nice little Staff by the way .
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Julia Lewis No, you didn't break any rules but what we do not want is people advocating for pit bull type dogs!
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Julia Lewis By advocating, I mean arguing that they are just like any other dogs. We know there are nice ones - like yours - but the point is that if they do attack, it is very serious and can result in death or a serious mauling.
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Lexi Shepard Can you please clarify what you believe 'pitbull type' to be ?
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Julia Lewis English Staffordshire Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Bull Terriers, American Pit Bull Terriers and American Bull Dogs. Then there are the larger pit bull variants, such as the Dogo Argentino, etc.
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Julia Lewis And mixes of those dogs would still be considered pit bull type dogs.
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Pearl Ward Right OK, well I won't advocate for any individual dog which has attacked, regardless of breed 
Just to clarify, does this group only highlight dangerous dogs of bull breed type or is to highlight dangerous dogs of any breed?
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Julia Lewis Read the Description on the top right. We put in any attack by a dog that results in a death or a serious mauling but why we appear to highlight pit bulls is that pit bulls, or I should say pit bull type dogs, are most often the type of dog implicated.
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Lexi Shepard Ok id like to point out a couple of things. 1. There is no such thing as an english staffordshire bull terrier - there is only the Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
2. There is no such thing as an american staffordshire bull terrier - it is in fact the American Staffordshire Terrier - no bull in it.
2. Whilst Ambulls are part of the 'bull breeds' they are bulldogs - not in any way classed as a pitbull.
3. Dogo Argentino and other breeds i have seen mentioned are MASTIFFs - again not in any way classed as a pitbull anywhere.
2. Staffordshire Bull Terriers are a completely separate breed from APBT and are fully legal in the UK - they are NOT classed as a pit type and do not come under the dangerous dogs act.
Perhaps you ought to actually do some research into the breeds you seem to so strongly hate so that you can provide accurate information to people ?
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Julia Lewis I was saying "English" Staffordshire... simply because many people here are in the US. No need to quibble about "bull", just leave it out. American bull dogs ARE considered pit bulls. Most of those large variants may well have more mastiff in them but they also have pit bull. Yes, I know Staffies are separate from APBT but the APBT comes from the English Staffie. The Americans took the Staffie to the US and bred it larger. Certain dogs got registered with one registry, others with another and the result is that some were called APBT and some American Staffordshire Terriers.
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Julia Lewis Lexi Shepherd, you won't last long here if you continue to be rude. I read your PM to me and was shocked by it. What you need to do is acknowledge the potential of pit bull type dogs. We are not calling for them to be all killed but we recognise the need for some kind of legislation. Too many people are getting killed and mauled. In the US a small dog is killed virtually every day by a pit bull type dog.
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Julia Lewis Here you are, this is a very informative website. This is the section of the "pit bull type dog":
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Hannah Honey Lexi Shepard ?? What is your point?
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Julia Lewis Pit Bull Rescue Central, who should know about these dogs, is realistic about their potential. They recommend handlers carry a break stick with them so they can pry open their dogs' jaws in case it latches on to some unfortunate person or animal.
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Lexi Shepard Im very well informed thank u and other than to call u an idiot i have not been rude - ive merely corrected mis information you are peddling and stated the actual facts. ANY breed has to the potential to injure or kill so why single out bull breeds mislabelling them all as pitbulls ? If you have read my msg how about answer the questions i posed to you and back your views up ? We already have BSL in place in the UK for 25 years and it DOESNT work !!! So exactly what legislation do you propose to deal with this issue and where will the resources come from to impliment it and enforce it effectively ? Have you ever by the way compared the statistics of death by dog to other types of death ? How far up the list exactly is death by dog as a cause of death ?
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Carol Miller It does not matter what a comparison of deaths by dog and deaths by all other causes might show. Yes, there are lots of ways to die but regulating a proven dangerous situation is what we expect from our lawmakers. Smoking is regulated, drunk driving is regulated, driving itself is regulated. Social behaviors are regulated, public nudity, sexual contact between adults and minors, regulated. Any manufactured product that caused human fatalities in the numbers that bully breed dogs do would be subject to a government ordered recall.

The reason the Dangerous Dogs act is in trouble is that the government in the UK submitted to the demands of breed advocates and allowed euphemistically labeled pit bulls. As long as the owner does not admit his/her dog is a pit bull they are golden.

You are very young and may gain wisdom and knowledge at some point.
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Julia Lewis The people who really know about pit bulls and how they should handle them are always realistic.
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Julia Lewis BSL in the UK doesn't work very well because Staffies were exempted and it is rarely enforced. I'm in the UK.
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Lexi Shepard Also according to that website its basically saying any kind of fighting bulldog type is classed as a pit - so why have you not mentioned the English bull terrier created FROM the stafford ? Or the British Bulldog bred to fight and bait bulls and large game well before the Stafford etc was even thought of ? What about Rhodesian Ridgebacks bred to protect from lions ? What about Dobermans, GSD and Belgian Malinois routinely chosen by police forces, miltary and security forces as 'attack dogs' ?
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Julia Lewis EBTs are around in far smaller numbers, which is why I didn't get around to mentioning them. The American Bull Dog is a modern recreation of that old bull and bear-baiting dog you mention. Yes, pit bull type dog does include other variations, I should have said that. There is a huge difference between Dobermans, GSDs, and Malinois in that they attack in a completely different way to pit bulls. Pit bulls have been bred to grab, hold and shake their victim and because of their powerful jaws, their teeth slice through flesh causing the most appalling damage. Those police dogs may get it wrong sometimes but they have been bred to grab and then let go. You can't have police dogs mauling their victims and starting to eat them, as pit bulls can do.
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Lexi Shepard But the dogs you just mentioned are TERRIERS !! Its the natural prey cycle for ALL terriers to grab and shake !
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Julia Lewis Terriers mixed with bull breeds, which is something very different.
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Julia Lewis Here's another very informative website: dogsbite.org
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Julia Lewis By the way, we have many victims among our members. People who have lost family and friends to pit bull type dogs. People who have lost a beloved dog to a pit bull. Please respect their feelings.
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Lexi Shepard Not its really not. They all are bred with the same prey cycle. As i said before its the reason squeaky toys were invented. There is no difference in how any dog bites only the way in which they do it. Terriers are stubborn and tenacious with a lot of prey drive - thats why they dont let go. Its not 'locked on' its simply the terrier grip.
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Lexi Shepard And still you havent answered the questions ive posed...
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Julia Lewis As far as I remember, you said it wasn't true that pit bull type dogs "locked" their jaws. No, they don't physically lock, and the jaw structure is the same as that of other dogs, but this is why people talk of them "locking" or "latching" on. It's a mental state of mind, a mindset, that makes them determined to continue with the attack come what may. This is why it is difficult to get a pit bull off a small dog or a person once it has locked on. So often the only way to do it is with a gun as beating them about the head with a stick only makes them hang on all the more. It is this feature that makes them uniquely dangerous. After all, they have been bred to fight!
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Julia Lewis The pit bull folk talk about "gameness". Have you not heard of that?
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Lexi Shepard I do respect peoples feelings but I also respect intelligence and education and backing up your views with correct and unbiased information. I pose you this challenge- find me where in british law or dog world information a Stafford or EBT is classed as a pitbull !
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Jimmy Younger Here, let me Google that for you: "The legal definition of a pit bull is a class of dogs that includes the following breeds: American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, American bulldog, and any other pure bred or mixed breed dog that is a combination of these dogs."(See DBO references of multiple appellate and supreme court rulings / multiple jurisdiction codes.)
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Julia Lewis There are endless gruesome videos on YouTube of pits attacking small dogs. In one ghastly clip, a pit bull kills a man by hanging on to his arm and not letting go.
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Julia Lewis No, it's not classed as a pit bull, you are right. But it is. The Americans acknowledge it as a pit bull, and people in the know.
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Julia Lewis Now you answer me something. What have I said that is biased?
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Lexi Shepard People in the know such as who exactly ? I didnt say you personally were biased - but you brought up the victims of various attacks - clearly they would be biased.
Also im pretty sure there's equal amounts of gruesome videos floating around of humans ...See more
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Carol Miller These events have nothing to do with death by dog. Please pick a topic and stick to it.
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Nicholas Valentine I understand why these dogs are called " pit bulls " , but I think this is a mistake as Pit Bull is also the name of a specific breed . The term " bull breeds " would be more accurate , and less confusing .
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Julia Lewis Actually, perhaps we should always say "pit bull type dogs" as many of these dogs are mixes of each other anyway. And they all stem from the same source. If you say "breeds" the pit bull advocates start arguing that they are not breeds.
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Nicholas Valentine Bull type is the term to use !
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Jennie Conway Oh here we go another pit hag looking to engage. Don't waste your time Julie Wall. When they start making comments about canine racism they are stupid beyond your taking the time. Just another nutter trying to educate. Lmao!
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Jennie Conway Bottom line..bully type dogs and their mixes are the number one canine killer of pets, domestic animals and people. That's all the education we need to know!
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Julia Lewis Lexi Shephard, you bring up all the same arguments as the other pit bull advocates. Humans evolved into races, dogs were bred specifically for certain jobs by humans. It is not racism to say that a border collie is far better than any other dog at herding sheep, or that a pointer excels in point out game, or that a spaniel is brilliant at flushing. In the same way it is not racism to say that a pit bull excels at fighting. After all, that's why the dog fighters want this dog! Do they want Goldies? No! Or spaniels? No!
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Lexi Shepard Haha are u kidding me Jennie Conway ??? ðŸ˜‚😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 right so someone with a degree level education is stupid ? Someone who has repeatedly asked for valid answers to the questions i have posed is stupid ? When I get a valid educated and correctly informed answer from anyone on here I shall bow to the facts and admit if I am wring but alas Im still waiting.........
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Carol Miller I don't see your questions. Just your arguments and excuses.
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Jennie Conway Notice that the people liking her comments are the same m
Nutters that have been at it all day! Block all morons.
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Nicholas Valentine I think bull type is THE correct term Jennie .
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Lexi Shepard Jennie im English we dont have pitbulls here they are banned so Im hardly a 'pit hag' as you call it ! Nice one loving the personal insults rather than educated debate ðŸ˜‚😂😂😂😂😂
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Nicholas Valentine I agree with you about personal insults and we shouldn't let any debate degenerate . I too am in the UK and can tell you that in spite of the DDA there are plenty of Pit Bulls around , mainly in big cities .
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Lexi Shepard Sorry but their may dogs deemed as 'type' but im yet to see a true pitbull in the uk either in person or online etc
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Nicholas Valentine There are plenty being walked around our towns and dog fighting flourishes , particularly in ethnic communities . It's all a case of looking in the right places . There are also a lot of crosses . The American Bulldog has a good dose of Pit Bull blood in its creation , as Irish Staffs and multiple Mastiff crosses and extra large SBT's
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Julia Lewis Yes, we certainly do have pit bulls here! Battersea Dogs Home knows this. Masses of pits are in this country.
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Lexi Shepard Top 10 causes of death in the UK - not even dog death never mind a particular type mentioned....
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Carol Miller Pick a topic child.
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Hannah Honey Oooh irrelevant to this page. Join something else.
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Lexi Shepard Oooh look right at the very bottom of causes of death is animal - again not even dog never mind specific breed or 'type' mentioned....
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Lexi Shepard Surely deaths by war and horrific dieseases or plain simple poverty are a little more pressing than just 17 deaths by dog in the UK since 2005 - thats 11 years !!! More our troops died in a day than that !!
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Jimmy Younger You beg the question, Lexi. Since there are bigger issues, why are you trolling an issue so unimportant per your perspective? Why give the murders and mayhem by bull breeds a moment of your time? Why do this?
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Hannah Honey Not. Relevant.
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Lexi Shepard No their are a few dogs deemed as 'type' based purely on a set of measurements that are incorrect anyway !!
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Hannah Honey There.
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Julia Lewis Lexi Shephard, just Google pit bull attacks, or Staffie attacks and see what you get. There's no point in arguing further. I did say to you and your friends to please read the Notes and Description above but you have insisted on arguing. You obviously cannot compare deaths by dog attacks to something like incidences of Alzheimers or other diseases.
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Julia Lewis You just carry on in your dream world, where pit bulls are just like any other dog. We'll carry on warning people here. I'm removing you from the group.
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Jennie Conway I don't debate pit hag's that have the same old nonsense to say. Your pit shit is nothing new. Your just here not to debate but to push your pit point. Not interested. I don't tolerate fools. Again I will repeat, since apparently you didn't read it correctly the first time. Bully type dogs and their mixes are the number one killer of pets, domestic animals and people! I have no need to say more. An intelligent person would understand that! Any one that chooses to keep such a dangerous animal as a pet is to me sub human! Thus a pit hag. You care nothing for the welfare of others...just yourself! Go pet your Blue...and hopefully he won't go pit and kill your dumb selfish ass. Because that's what you are for keeping a dog that is dangerous to society. But when and if your Blue goes pit...and hurts someone else. I hope they lock your selfish ass up in some place where you never see the light of day again! Yes I'm nasty to pit hags. Tough! I'm committed to the thought that pit hag's and their filthy maulers don't deserve me to be polite. So go ahead and take your best screen shot...because that's all you're here for. I don't care!
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Carol Ashley Way back when lennox was PTS, I searched PB and Uk banning.. there are PB in the UK grandfathered in with the BSL and rules the owners must adhere to.....Now I prefer the name bully breeds, because they are and each has a specific name they are called by AKC and UKC and every one has the ability to be aggressive towards animals and humans, depending on their genetic breeding....Show breeders do not breed for aggressive behavior towards human or animal, that get s dog banned from the ring.....This isnt true for byb and puppy mills or people who fight bully breeds, they breed the dogs that are very aggressive, hoping to get puppies with that genetic makeup.....They do get very dog aggressive dogs and some that tranfer that aggression to human,,,,these types of dog need to be PTS for the safety of other animals, kids and adults....I personally do not have any issue with bully breeds in general that are non aggressive and they are out there. I have had 3 Pits and a English Mastiff many years ago, when they became popular with gangs and drug dealers.....One of the Pits attacked another dog in teh house, ripped all of her rear leg muscle off. this Pit was never the same after, she was Cujo, she could not be around any other dog or human.She became highly aggressive and was constantly like this...Something snapped it was the most terrifing time of my life to see this....So I personally can see and understand the fear of these breeds...But I believe we should do this on a case by case basis,,,If a dog has attacked and killed someones pet dog, I would request it be PTS and for sure if it attacked or killed a kid or an adult. Its irresponsible of a person not to. The dog is a danger to society.....There are many very sweet and loing bully breeds, that never cross over to being anyway near aggressive towards animals or people, these ones shouldnt lose there lives because of what the other bully breeds do......
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Lexi Shepard Respect for a well written and balanced view ðŸ‘ŒðŸ‘Œ
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Lew Heifner A rose by any other name....
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Hannah Honey After it kills someone is too late. So, no.
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Lexi Shepard ðŸ˜‚😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 get a grip love my Blue as u put it cant 'go pit' hes a purebred Staffordshire Bull Terrier !!! Pretty sure I have a clue how to care for and train my dogs thank u very much and considering both dogs have been brought up with children and other animals since birth and never put a foot wrong there is no reason whatsover that all of a sudden they will completely forget how to be a well behaved well adjusted pet ðŸ˜‚😂😂😂😂😂gotta love how you assume I would even LET my dog do anything in the first place - thanks for labelling me as a bad owner when you actually have no idea ! But yeah its fine you know my canine behaviour qualifications were off the back of a cornflakes packet of course ðŸ˜‚😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 like i say you wont answer any questions instead start saying things to be nasty (seriously love for me to be insulted by you i would first have to value your opinion!). You still cant or wont explain the thousands and thousands of bull breeds and mastiff breeds the world over that live peaceful happy family lives until old age takes them and the thousands that have done the same in every previous generation since the breeds inception... do you really think you are higher than me ?! Biggest joke ive heard all year !!!!! Go actually do some proper research on bite and fatality statistics - here in the UK the Labrador is responsible for the most reported bites with the Daschund a very close second....
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Nicholas Valentine Reported bites are not the same as deaths !
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Lexi Shepard Ok well theres been just 17 deaths by dog maulings in 11 years in the UK - really ? This is like sooo important in the grand scheme of things is it ? Statistically im more likely to walk out my front door and get hit by a bus than my well trained, well looked after family pets suddenly deciding im lunch ðŸ˜‚😂😂😂😂
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Jeff Borchardthttps://m.facebook.com/jeffreydborchardt/photos/a.684160741638866.1073741828.683616848359922/734153343306272/?type=1

"Bites" vs. "Maulings"

We are not talking about the 4,632,839 "bites" in a calendar year, we are talking about the 357,629 emergency visits and the 9,532 hospitalizations and deaths.

Click here to read the DogsBite.org 26 page recommendations document submitted to the CDC through my congressman's office: http://www.dogsbite.org/.../dogsbiteorg-cdc-remedies-dog...
Jeff D. Borchardt
"Bites" vs. "Maulings"
We are not talking about the 4,632,839 "bites" in a calendar year, we are talking about the 357,629 emergency visits and the 9,532 hospit...
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Hannah Honey Lost me at ten thousand smilies.
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Jennie Conway There you have it. Only 17 deaths are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Doesn't matter at all to a pit hag!
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Hannah Honey "Let your pit?" Imagine a thousand smilies. You have no choice, hun.
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Julia Lewis There you are, a typical pit bull advocate conflating bites with deaths and maulings!
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Jennie Conway Oh really like I said same old pit hag shit. I personally have never heard of a killer dachshund. Lmfao your stupid comments prove my point...mindless selfish pit hag! Like I said I won't debate fools and hag's. You are not hear to debate...but only for screen shots! People on this site are not stupid. So go ahead screen shot your life away. I don't care!
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Lexi Shepard Ok so what about for example the recent UK case of the 3 week old baby killed by a small terrier ?
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Hannah Honey A pit bull IS a terrier. Jesus Christ.
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Jennie Conway No brain pit hag!
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Hannah Honey And actually, they (the average pit bull) aren't even large. They're medium unless all steroided up.
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Hannah Honey There are small.ones, too. Pocket pits. What kind of terrier? There are loads of terriers.
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Jennie Conway Like I said I won't debate a foolish pit hag! Eventually admin on this site will get exhausted by your pit shit and block your selfish ass. Have a great day! 
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Lexi Shepard I have screenshot nothing actually Jennie - why do I need or want to ? What does a screenshot achieve other than informative ones such as I posted detailing the the statistics to back up my statements ? I genuinely want educated reasoning behind your views but STILL you have not provided this; only resorted to name calling again (btw maybe you want to think about getting a thesaurus to save you using the same name twice in future ðŸ‘ŒðŸ‘Œ)
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Hannah Honey Screenshots have been tried, but all they do is spread facts. Not the facts pit enthusiasts want spread. Somehow, it is supposed to make bsl advocates look nuts, but it rarely does.
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Lexi Shepard Come on explain exactly how I am selfish and foolish ? Exactly what do you think I do with my dogs ?
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Hannah Honey If you own a pit bull, that's exactly what you are, to a t.
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Hannah Honey Dog pit victim
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Jennie Conway And seriously you really don't want anyone to start posting pictures of people mauled and killed by Staffordshires. And no one has the time! Or for that matter cares to. You just want to annoy as did your previous friends this morning. Who do you think you're trying to fool!
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Hannah Honey I have time. Plenty. I'll post pictures til the cows come home.
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Hannah Honey I don't even know where that phrase just popped out of, like some past life.
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Jennie Conway You are a selfish stupid inexperienced young fool who can't grasp the meaning of being selfish by keeping dangerous dogs
Therefore endangering other people and their pets.
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Lexi Shepard What does one picture prove ? How us that an educated response to an educated articulate question ? You keep saying all this stuff but you dont back any of it up with scientific or accurate statistical proof so how am I the foolish one ?! How are my dogs a danger then since you seem to know them so well ?
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Hannah Honey A picture is worth a thousand words. This is Darla Napora. Cremated with the pit bull who killed her. She was 32, and pregnant.
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Hannah Honey I don't feel bad posting her picture because she was a huge pit advocate, unlike most innocent, bystanding victims.
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Hannah Honey Scientific proof, like what? I have two books on caring for pit bulls and both say pit bulls are NOT like other dogs. Not even close.
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Hannah Honey You probably can't tell, but her eyeball is basically hanging out. Awesome pet.
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Jennie Conway ENOUGH! Crawl back under your rock with your mauler! I've wasted enough of my time on a pit hag!
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Susan DeVilder Stealing this!!!!!!
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Jennie Conway OK be my guest! Lol!
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Lexi Shepard No - who are you to tell me what to do ? Answer my questions and ill leave you in peace - the fact you have resorted to a stream of ridiculous insults and defensive nonsense instead of intelligent articulate answers says a huge amount !
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Hannah Honey I'll answer. What questions?
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Lexi Shepard Come on prove me wrong on something at least !! Because right now all this group shows is a serious lack of education and a whole load of belief in media hype and laws that just dont work and never will !!!!
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Annie Cowan Brown Lexi,
Most of us work with victims. Many who were attacked by their own dogs. We've been doin this A LONG TIME. We know what we know because we see and work with the victims behind the stats. It's that simple. Will they all attack? Who's to say. The problem is our inability to determine that until AFTER a horrifying attack. Then what's the use? Maybe yours will be nice forever. We'll ll hope for that. But we have to differentiate and stop the next attack on some innocent child, grandma, sister or pet. Better safe than sorry. KNOW what you own and TAKE PRECAUTIONS just in case.
Like25 hrs
Hannah Honey Whether they will or not, when they do, it's devastating and sometimes deadly. Not like other dogs.
Like23 hrs
Lew Heifner Pitters will never understand the dangers until their pit bull explains it to them in graphic detail. Hopefully the lesson does not come at the cost of an innocent life.
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Hannah Honey Not even then. Dog works in mysterious ways.
Like23 hrs
Lew Heifner Yeah, it is like crack, pitters have an irrational addiction...
Like23 hrs
Julia Lewis Media hype indeed! You are right about the laws not working.
Like26 hrs
Lexi Shepard Like i say back up your statements if you believe them so strongly and prove me wrong !! Im STILL waiting !!!!!!!
Like6 hrs
Nicholas Valentine The day your dogs get into a fight and you can't stop them is when you will have a clear demonstration of the power of Staffs . This may never happen and and untill then you will be living in ignorance .
Like66 hrs
Julia Lewis Nicholas knows what he is talking about as he had pit bull type dogs for a long time.
Like46 hrs
Lew Heifner At this point, only your dog can explain it to you.... pray it does not happen, it is a very expensive lesson for one so willfully ignorant of the dangers.
Like13 hrs
Hannah Honey We have been. Read our answers.
Like13 hrs
Julia Lewis You mean about the media hype? I can do that. I worked for years in a newsroom and wrote many stories about Staffies attacking people and other animals. I got my information either from the police or from the victims themselves. You would probably say I made up the stories. Anyone who thinks that has no idea how a busy newsroom works! There is no time for invention. Pit bull advocates used to ask me why I didn't write about a certain Labrador attack and I used to say, I would have if I had known about it. The truth is, all the stories I wrote involved Staffies.
Like46 hrs
Jennie Conway You are a moron! Why would people answer the questions of a stupid ignorant pit hag? Julia tried and you kept changing the subject canine racism...stupid that doesn't exist. Dogs are not races. And then of course your going to throw in murder, hunger and poverty. You stupid ass... Duh!!! The name of the site is dangerous dogs. Again Duh!!!! Let me explain, that means the subject is dogs. God help me must I write a book about what is a dog for dummies. No one want s to waste their time on you! You are a moron!
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Hannah Honey There is no dog racism. Dogs are not a race.
Like23 hrs


As you can see these people claim their whole campaign is based on empirical science based data and information but when confronted with such legitimate science and facts they immediately resort to name calling bullying and personal attacks typically in true breed specific legislation proponent style.

The fact is these people are hiding their despicable pit bull extermination campaign behind the noble cause of community safety whereas they really don't care about victims unless they jump on the kill all pit bulls band wagon if not they get bullied used and persecuted just like the rest of society.

Simply put these people are dangerously deluded and their so called advocacy is little more then an all out hate fest be run by simple minded selfish morons.


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